What kind of animal is that. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Do they travel. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. My wife and I saw a mountain lion. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. So that did it for me. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. People go through great lengths to create hoaxes like this. I mean there was this one lady I remember and tough tomorrow. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. Let's talk to Bob in Laconia Bob. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. I mean I that said I've lived out west for nine years. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states.
Mountain Lion in New Hampshire? - Bowsite.com Patrick Tate: Same here in New Hampshire too. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go.
Squam Lake: Home of mountain lions - Concord Monitor It's listed as population of least concern. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen.
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New Thanks for your call. If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. We'd love to have you in the queue. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. Want to put this to to Patrick Tate who may have heard some some info or info from listeners like you about these these these cats. These were normal everyday folks. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. I didn't see him online. Peter Biello: Thank you for sharing that. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. Russ, from Sandwich (and Bedford) asks: In Sandwich New Hampshire, everybody has a story about seeing a mountain lion. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. From: Boomerdog in OK 08-Oct-07 There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. Peter Biello: Hmm. We'll push great photos to the front page. Caller: Oh hi. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Peter Biello: Nice to be here.
Saddleback Mountain Lions Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. He shifted gears in 2016 and began producing Outside/In, a podcast and radio show about the natural world and how we use it. His work has won him several awards, including two regional Edward R. Murrow awards, one national Murrow, and the Overseas Press Club of America's award for best environmental reporting in any medium. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Good morning guys. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. I mean it wasn't your idea. Peter Biello: Wow. The brother and sister big cats have lived . Rick your thoughts. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. So now what's going on. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. You know one of the the biggest questions I have about that is it points to how much we don't know and if in fact we don't know enough. John is calling from Bennington. One was in Shelton. Can you look into this picture. Part II. Its impossible to say, but I think the odds are pretty good that some of these sightings are legit. That's too big for Bobcat. Less successful males roam further. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. Is this kind of a typical story.
Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. They are the same thing. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. Not one picture of him online while the person meet with us. Sam Evans-Brown: Well and I think and the last takeaway here is everyone I think probably agrees that any possible sightings that have been seen. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted.
'Like we did as kids': Horse makes snow angels with her owner in New You don't know what's going on. Part II. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. Like why would you want one wildlife. They just end up in these places. Mountain Lions in NH. Women control our lives. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. Caller: I have yeah. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. New Hampshire Public Radio | So. Sam Evans Brown. Mountain Lions are a mythical creature in New Hampshire with strong feelings on both sides of the question: are there Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? So there's even debate about that very subject. So and so they so they do get pretty involved. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. It was not a bobcat. Patrick Tate: I don't believe it is. Have a photo. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. Let us know your story and share your photos! So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. What do you think that. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. Administrative Links. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. And it's not really strong. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. To date most of the pictures that have been sent in have been bobcats and other species Ive received pictures of house cats. So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. So if you were to ask me has a mountain lion ever passed through New Hampshire and been spotted by somebody who wasnt able to get hard evidence? Id personally be willing to say "probably, yes.". Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. 1957. Patrick Tate: Nice talk to you too. So Michael follows with the question. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. Some argue that it's a leap of faith. The report came in from a conservation officer. We'd be inundated with scouts in the past when newspaper articles have been written about DNA and scouts. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. And why would they what. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. And still the the folks there did weren't able to come up with it with 100 percent certainty what deposited that scat. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. Sam. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. The current estimate is 2,000 - 2,700 throughout Arizona. Thank you. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. Peter Biello: Well I want to ask Patrick about one of these stories a few years ago you had a story about someone who claimed to.
Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part I And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. They create these big latrines that are very obvious. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. I mean so what what is the practical change that it would bring to New Hampshire if any. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about. Thank you. And it was unmistakable. Thanks for calling. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. So. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. Phone number 1 800. And so far we have not had any positive mark lion scats or any DNA. He told me that on one of his many scouting trips for Black Bear he found a deer carcass up in a tree. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. So one thing that I find fascinating about this Connecticut cat was six months between the New York situation where they found evidence of it too when it was hit by a motor vehicle. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. 44-N Links. So the whole media hype about how scary mountain lions are should should go away immediately and that would be that I think the major thrust of educating folks about these casualties vs.. Sam Evans-Brown: Sam go ahead.
Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. There are mountain lion in Massachusetts. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. So give us a call now. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. Current conditions in New Hampshire would support a mountain lion, according to Tate, as forests have returned, allowing for prey species to become more prevalent. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Caller: I do. Peter Biello: Well Karl Jarvis a former reporter for The King's son Nile thank you very much for for calling in and sharing your perspective and to his point Patrick T. I mean yes we haven't met the scientific burden of proof here in New Hampshire as far as physical evidence is is concerned but is there room at Fish and Game For A kind of an informal nod to all of the people who have somehow convinced themselves and possibly some others that yeah there may be occasional sightings here.